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VOICE
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“I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American victims,” he said. “The office is called VOICE—Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement. We are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media, and silenced by special interests.”


“By finally enforcing our immigration laws, we will raise wages, help the unemployed, save billions and billions of dollars, and make our communities safer for everyone,” he said. “We want all Americans to succeed, but that can’t happen in an environment of lawless chaos. We must restore integrity and the rule of law at our borders.”


Never mind that immigrants are less likely than native-born citizens to commit crime, as the libertarian Cato Institute has detailed. In Trump’s America, their crime will draw heightened opprobrium, and their victims will get special status. Audible groans could be heard from the Democratic side of the House chamber.
Before the speech, Trump reportedly told news anchors he would be open to an immigration-reform bill offering a path to citizenship for some of the 11 million undocumented immigrants living here, as ABC News reported. But there was no hint of that Tuesday night. Likewise, he didn’t mention his soft spot for undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, even though several of them sat in the gallery seats above him as the guests of Democratic members of Congress.
Instead, Trump spent the speech blaming immigrants for the country’s problems.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...smile.html


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"Never mind that immigrants are less likely than native-born citizens to commit crime, as the libertarian Cato Institute has detailed."

First, they left out "illegal".

Second, illegal immigrant crime should be zero. They aren't suppose to be here.
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(03-01-2017, 07:18 PM)Paul M Wrote: "Never mind that immigrants are less likely than native-born citizens to commit crime, as the libertarian Cato Institute has detailed."

First, they left out "illegal".

Second, illegal immigrant crime should be zero. They aren't suppose to be here.

Zero? There isn't a place on this earth where the crime rate is zero.

That's quite a standard you hold them to.
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Not holding them to any standard at all. They can commit all the crimes they like. In their home countries.

Subject isn't crime rate, it's illegal immigrant crime rate.

If they aren't suppose to be here, and weren't, that's exactly the number of crimes illegal immigrants would be capable of committing.

Come on man, that's easy math.
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(03-02-2017, 01:10 PM)Paul M Wrote: Not holding them to any standard at all. They can commit all the crimes they like. In their home countries.

Subject isn't crime rate, it's illegal immigrant crime rate.

If they aren't suppose to be here, and weren't, that's exactly the number of crimes illegal immigrants would be capable of committing.

Come on man, that's easy math.

It's you who doesn't understand the math. Deporting these people isn't a solution. They keep coming back.
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How many crimes does an illegal commit here while deported and back in his home country? Zero. If they are stopped from re-entry? Zero.

It's unrealistic to believe we could ever be completely free of illegals and their crimes but if it were possible, their crimes here would be... zero.
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(03-02-2017, 04:26 PM)Fitbuddy Wrote:
(03-02-2017, 01:10 PM)Paul M Wrote: Not holding them to any standard at all. They can commit all the crimes they like. In their home countries.

Subject isn't crime rate, it's illegal immigrant crime rate.

If they aren't suppose to be here, and weren't, that's exactly the number of crimes illegal immigrants would be capable of committing.

Come on man, that's easy math.

It's you who doesn't understand the math. Deporting these people isn't a solution. They keep coming back.

I thought Obama deported more illegals than anyone.
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(03-03-2017, 10:32 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:
(03-02-2017, 04:26 PM)Fitbuddy Wrote:
(03-02-2017, 01:10 PM)Paul M Wrote: Not holding them to any standard at all. They can commit all the crimes they like. In their home countries.

Subject isn't crime rate, it's illegal immigrant crime rate.

If they aren't suppose to be here, and weren't, that's exactly the number of crimes illegal immigrants would be capable of committing.

Come on man, that's easy math.

It's you who doesn't understand the math. Deporting these people isn't a solution. They keep coming back.

I thought Obama deported more illegals than anyone.

He did. How did that work out?
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