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More signs NASCAR is dying?
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I just read that Michael Waltrip racing is disbanding at the end of this season. That's 2 full time cars and 1 part-time no longer racing. Could NASCAR have races where there aren't 43 cars racing? I think NASCAR decision to move to less traditional locations along with over priced tickets is killing fan interest. Add to that races that might field fewer than the standard 43 cars and even more fans will stop watching.
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(08-19-2015, 09:21 PM)ConservativeHerd Wrote: I just read that Michael Waltrip racing is disbanding at the end of this season.  That's 2 full time cars and 1 part-time no longer racing.  Could NASCAR have races where there aren't 43 cars racing?  I think NASCAR decision to move to less traditional locations along with over priced tickets is killing fan interest.  Add to that races that might field fewer than the standard 43 cars and even more fans will stop watching.

Greed never ends well. The Rebel Flag ban didn't help matters IMO
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The writing was on the wall when MWR co-owner Rob Kauffman bought into the partnership with Chip Ganassi and Felix Sabates, but the organization has been in trouble for he past couple years. Facts are the team would have already folded if it weren't for Kauffman bailing them out early on.

They haven't won a race since 2013, Clint Boyer is in danger of missing out of the points chase, and it's highly doubtful Brian Vickers will ever race again with his blood clot issues. They can't blame Toyota for their issues because Joe Gibbs Racing has been blistering the field lately with the Camry. Waltrip has always been more concerned about being a clown on TV than a car owner, so now he can concentrate on being a clown.

That being said, NASCAR has survived far more famous teams folding before so this isn't that big of a deal. Junior Johnson, Junie Donlavey, Bud Moore, Bobby Allison, and Robert Yates were all far more successful team owners who folded.

As for the number of cars, talks are that with Kauffman coming on board Ganassi is going to add a third team to the #1 and #42. Sometime in the next year or so Richard Childress Racing is going to promote Ty Dillon and Brendan Gaughn to the Sprint Cup series, and there is the real chance that someone could purchase MWR outright. Could be a brand new team just starting out, or if Toyota were truly concerned about it they could push one of their Xfinity Series teams like TriStar to start fielding Sprint Cup teams.


NASCAR has a ton of problems but this one isn't one of them.
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(08-20-2015, 04:09 PM)kaplony Wrote: The writing was on the wall when MWR co-owner Rob Kauffman bought into the partnership with Chip Ganassi and Felix Sabates, but the organization has been in trouble for he past couple years.  Facts are the team would have already folded if it weren't for Kauffman bailing them out early on.

They haven't won a race since 2013, Clint Boyer is in danger of missing out of the points chase, and it's highly doubtful Brian Vickers will ever race again with his blood clot issues.  They can't blame Toyota for their issues because Joe Gibbs Racing has been blistering the field lately with the Camry.  Waltrip has always been more concerned about being a clown on TV than a car owner, so now he can concentrate on being a clown.

That being said, NASCAR has survived far more famous teams folding before so this isn't that big of a deal.  Junior Johnson, Junie Donlavey, Bud Moore, Bobby Allison, and Robert Yates were all far more successful team owners who folded.

As for the number of cars, talks are that with Kauffman coming on board Ganassi is going to add a third team to the #1 and #42.  Sometime in the next year or so Richard Childress Racing is going to promote Ty Dillon and Brendan Gaughn to the Sprint Cup series, and there is the real chance that someone could purchase MWR outright.  Could be a brand new team just starting out, or if Toyota were truly concerned about it they could push one of their Xfinity Series teams like TriStar to start fielding Sprint Cup teams.


NASCAR has a ton of problems but this one isn't one of them.

it's a shame. NASCAR is a staple of the American south and I hate to see it go away. I hope they find a way to turn it around. New cars, new endorsements, new drivers all around.

Gordon brought back his rainbow car for Bristol.
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With the exit of the Waltrip teams there are 37 full time teams to cover a 43 car field. That means every week there are 6 part-time teams there just for a one race pay off, not likely they'd ever win but the could cause a wreck that knocks one of the top teams out of the race. According to NBC announcers there are not any top tier teams looking for a driver so Bowyer will likely have to sign a one year deal with one of these part-time teams.
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(08-22-2015, 10:31 AM)ConservativeHerd Wrote: With the exit of the Waltrip teams there are 37 full time teams to cover a 43 car field.  That means every week there are 6 part-time teams there just for a one race pay off, not likely they'd ever win but the could cause a wreck that knocks one of the top teams out of the race.  According to NBC announcers there are not any top tier teams looking for a driver so Bowyer will likely have to sign a one year deal with one of these part-time teams.

why doesn't NASCAR build find investors to build more speedways? My state is full of NASCAR fans.
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(08-22-2015, 10:31 AM)ConservativeHerd Wrote: With the exit of the Waltrip teams there are 37 full time teams to cover a 43 car field.  That means every week there are 6 part-time teams there just for a one race pay off, not likely they'd ever win but the could cause a wreck that knocks one of the top teams out of the race.  According to NBC announcers there are not any top tier teams looking for a driver so Bowyer will likely have to sign a one year deal with one of these part-time teams.

More than likely the loss of the two MWR cars is going to be covered by Penske and Rousch-Fenway both expanding.


Penske is looking to field cars for their Xfinity driver Ryan Blaney for all but the 15 races he will drive for the Wood Brothers.


Rousch-Fenway wants their Xfinity driver Chris Buescher full time in Sprint Cup, if not in one of their cars then with one of the teams aligned with them.

Bowyer is likely headed to H Scott Motorsports, but likely only on a one year deal. He's been long speculated to be the replacement for when Tony Stewart gives up driving full time, with most speculating that 2016 will be Smoke's last year. However it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he could be in the #14 next season as Stewart has had continuous problems with the leg he broke in 2013. He's had four surgeries on it already and will decide on whether or not to have a fifth surgery later this year. When he had the fourth surgery back in December he admitted the leg wasn't healing as well as it should.

If not there are two other possibilities. It's rumored Sam Hornish Jr is out of the #9 car for Richard Petty after this season. Petty tried to sign Bowyer before he signed with MWR. The other possibility is that Furniture Row switches to Toyota from Chevrolet and adds a second car.

Anywhere Bowyer ends up it's believed that Five Hour Energy goes with him as a sponsor, so that gives him a leg up over other free agent drivers.

Again, NASCAR has had far more influential and successful teams fold in the past and survived. Out of the many problems facing NASCAR this has to rank somewhere in the 90's in rank of importance.
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#8
As expected

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/sto...016-season

Quote:Tony Stewart, a three-time Sprint Cup Series champion, plans to retire after the 2016 season, team and industry sources told ESPN's Marty Smith.

Mired in one of the worst seasons of his career at 25th in the standings, Stewart will run one final season before handing over the driving duties of the Stewart-Haas Racing No. 14 car to Clint Bowyer in 2017, sources said.

Bowyer is driving for Michael Waltrip Racing in 2015, but that team is closing operations after the season. According to a source with knowledge of Bowyer's plans, he will drive for HScott Motorsports in 2016.
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(09-28-2015, 12:47 AM)kaplony Wrote: As expected

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/sto...016-season

Quote:Tony Stewart, a three-time Sprint Cup Series champion, plans to retire after the 2016 season, team and industry sources told ESPN's Marty Smith.

Mired in one of the worst seasons of his career at 25th in the standings, Stewart will run one final season before handing over the driving duties of the Stewart-Haas Racing No. 14 car to Clint Bowyer in 2017, sources said.

Bowyer is driving for Michael Waltrip Racing in 2015, but that team is closing operations after the season. According to a source with knowledge of Bowyer's plans, he will drive for HScott Motorsports in 2016.

Any up comers, or all all the "greats" retiring with nobody in the wings?
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(09-28-2015, 03:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
(09-28-2015, 12:47 AM)kaplony Wrote: As expected

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/sto...016-season

Quote:Tony Stewart, a three-time Sprint Cup Series champion, plans to retire after the 2016 season, team and industry sources told ESPN's Marty Smith.

Mired in one of the worst seasons of his career at 25th in the standings, Stewart will run one final season before handing over the driving duties of the Stewart-Haas Racing No. 14 car to Clint Bowyer in 2017, sources said.

Bowyer is driving for Michael Waltrip Racing in 2015, but that team is closing operations after the season. According to a source with knowledge of Bowyer's plans, he will drive for HScott Motorsports in 2016.

Any up comers, or all all the "greats" retiring with nobody in the wings?

Chase Elliott is replacing Jeff Gordon next year. He's Bill Elliott's son and has driven for Dale Jr's Nationwide/Xfinity team the past two years. He won the Nationwide Championship last year and is currently third in the standings. He ran five Sprint Cup races this year as well as running the Sprint Showdown at the All Star race. With him going to Hendrick Motorsports he'll be in a position to win. He's only 19 so he's got the chance to be a star for a long, long time.


Chris Buescher currently drives in the Xfinity series for Rousch-Fenway Racing, but Jack Rousch stated earlier in the year he wanted to get him in a Sprint Cup car as soon as possible. He's 22 years old, a former ARCA Series champion and currently in 1st place in the Xfinity Series points.

Ryan Blaney is already in Sprint Cup driving the Wood Brothers car in their part-time schedule. He drives for Penske in the Xfinity series and one of Brad Kesolowski's truck series rides. Earlier this year Roger Penske discussed the possibility of him running Sprint Cup full time next year by fielding a third Penske car for him to drive in the races that the Wood Brothers do not run. (The Woods Brothers and Penske have a technical cooperation alliance).



Not quite ready to make the jump but two names to keep an eye on for the future are a pair of JR Motorsports developmental drivers. Ben Rhodes is 18 and already running a partial Xfinity schedule. Cole Custer is 17 and running a partial Truck Series schedule and has two series wins in two partial seasons.
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